Troublesome start

willemstein

New Member
Hi

Started a week ago, and it's still a struggle.

First, importing. This is no trivial excercise, partly because I find the documentation lacking, and partly because the dutch translation is not brilliant. Was this done by a native speaker? If so, he/she was likely not a dutch national - it simply does not feel like dutch, in places. The dutch Localizable.strings file has a lot of errors.

An actual problem:
After I had figured out, with much trial & error (docs!!), how a transactions file should look I started Applescripting the conversion from my bank's data to some that iCash would understand (lots of dumb work, eh?).
The results seemed erratic. At some point I thought this had something to do with mixed text encoding in the script's output, but I'm not sure about that.
One thing I *did* find is that data are not imported when the file contains some transactions with an empty "payee" field: the documentation claims this field is optional. But what does "optional" mean? Is it "this field can be absent in the datafile" or "this field can be empty in one or more transactions"?

And:
~/Documents/Maxprog/ contains only data generated by the app, so it does not belong in the user's documents folder. It should be in ~/Library/Application Support/.
But then, OfficeMac shows the same nonstandard behaviour...

And:
The autobackup feature is another problematic area. I'll report about that in another post.

And:
The documentation seems to be for v. 4, but quite a few things look different in v. 5.

But, finally:
I discovered several errors in my existing system (in Excel). So, iCash's 'core functionality' is fine. It's just that some of the rough edges are *very* rough, in my early experience.
And everything here is just my opinion.
 

stanbusk

Administrator
Staff member
This is no trivial excercise, partly because I find the documentation lacking, and partly because the dutch translation is not brilliant. Was this done by a native speaker?
Yes it is, iCash was translated by a Dutch native speaker working as a software translator in Holland. If you see localization problems please report them all detail-fully! I will be pleased to fix any problem you find.

About importing, we support QIF, OFX and plain text files that were generated from iCash previously. We do not support wild nonstandard formats right now reason why our doc only talks about QIF, OFX and files generated by iCash. There is a project on the way to add a new feature to allow you to import transactions from those wild nonstandard formats. I hope it will be available in next v6. It will be a new window that will allow you to set rules based on transaction descriptions. Anyway what kind of file are you trying to import? Did you make it yourself?

~/Documents/Maxprog/ contains only data generated by the app, so it does not belong in the user's documents folder. It should be in ~/Library/Application Support/.
But then, OfficeMac shows the same nonstandard behaviour...
Yes, this rule did not exist on previous Mac OS X versions, reason why you will find some software that don't follow it.

I discovered several errors in my existing system (in Excel). So, iCash's 'core functionality' is fine. It's just that some of the rough edges are *very* rough, in my early experience.
And everything here is just my opinion.
iCash is updated every month with new development. If you have ideas please share them with us.
 

willemstein

New Member
If you see localization problems please report them all detail-fully!
I think I will be sending you an email about this, if that's OK with you.

...we support QIF, OFX and plain text files that were generated from iCash previously. We do not support wild nonstandard formats...
Ah, I see. Plain text is OK, but I'm not supposed to cobble something together myself ;-)

Anyway what kind of file are you trying to import? Did you make it yourself?
Like I said before, these are my bank's data. They're simple CSV files, I would not call that "wildly nonstandard". My bank is the former "Postbank", now part of ING. Postbank had 7 million accounts - I believe Rabobank uses the same format. I would not be surprised if these 2 banks have 60-80 % of dutch consumer accounts.
But of course, the content of these files does not conform to what iCash expects, so I wrote an applescript to make that happen. This is working very nicely, now. Um, it's my M.O. which is nonstandard, not my bank's files :-D

Yes, this rule did not exist on previous Mac OS X versions, reason why you will find some software that don't follow it.
I beg to differ. I remember the Application Support folder being introduced in OS 9. Did iCash exist before that? Ten years, and still going strong!!

If you have ideas please share them with us.
I think I have. But I should familiarise myself a bit more with iCash - some things I want to do may be hiding somewhere.
 
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