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nieK



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Checking order Reply with quote

Hi there,

I just wanted to know in which order the Bounce Handler do check the mails for bounces.

For each mail, does it search maching rules first or does it looks for DNS first?

Thanks.
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stanbusk
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Joined: 28 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eMail Bounce handler first checks for DSNs. If the message is not a DSN we then apply internal rules.
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nieK



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much.

And I have one more question:

Does there is a possiblity to control the order in which the rules are checked?

I would like if the most important rules (those who match more often) would be checked first, in order to accelerate the process. Or does Bounce Handler already do an ordering like this? Something like a counter for each rule or so?

Thank you again for your fast response.
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, rules are already ordered. The most common are placed first. Anyway it is very fast. The slow part is downloading the message from the server.
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nieK



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a static order? I mean, it is independend of the "matching-history"?

You have to know, that Ihave to check about 50000 bounces (SPAM incl.) a day. So even a tiny acceleration can bring advantages.
And the majority of bounces are in german and french, so the frequency of rules might be different.

By the way, does it is normal that the Bounce Handler slowes over a period of workflow?
In the beginning it is so fast that it isn't possible to read the logfile at the same time, but after a thousend bounces beeing checked you easily could write all the entries by hand when appearing in the log.
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a static order however downloading is more that 500 times slower than rule checking. It is not a issue actually. About speed it should go always at same speed as it disconnects regularly form the server.
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nieK



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

500 times Shocked . I really should care about other things Rolling Eyes
Thank you.

In the matter of spped I looked for the disconnections in the log and they seem to be normal. They just need two attempts for reconnecting. But this couldn't be the reason, right?
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible, What error do you get?
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nieK



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the log he just say the following after the first attempt:
Quote:

8/9 14:18:28 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00

Than he tries a second time and it works. It seems to be like this after every disconnetction.
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like a connection drop from the server. MaxBulk Mailer never drops the connection however it has an auto-recovery feature in case the server drop the connection, it is what you are seeing.
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nieK



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could this be the reason for the E-mail Bounce Handler to slow down?

In time I will try to find out, why our server is dropping down the first connection.
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure if it can have any effect on E-mail Bounce Handler but it is true it will take more time.
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nieK



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

it's me again.

I don't think that it is the server who drops the connection because if I'm trying it in the shell with telnet it works well. Additionaly it atempts at every server we have. So it wouln't be very probable that the 4 different servers cause the same problem.

Further I remarked that the first connection works well:

Quote:

8/20 13:14:51 ~ Status: Connecting to [redacted] (POP3) Port: 110 Security: [redacted]
8/20 13:14:51 +OK [redacted] Cyrus POP3 v2.2.12 server ready
8/20 13:14:51 > USER [redacted]
8/20 13:14:51 +OK Name is a valid mailbox
8/20 13:14:51 > PASS [redacted]
8/20 13:14:51 +OK Mailbox locked and ready


And the first connection is the only connection which uses Port 110 which is fixed for POP3.

For the other reconnections the port number increment with each reconnection.

Does it is the local port?
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stanbusk
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean with 'For the other reconnections the port number increment with each reconnection. '? eMail Bounce Handler doesn't do that. There is no code to do that.

About connection drops, it can be your operating system, your local network , your router or your firewall but I think there are more chances it is your ISP or your server. However I had once a problem with a customer using a WiFi connection producing a lot of connection drops.
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nieK



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the circumstances. But I'm wilily Wink

I meant the following:

Quote:

8/22 10:30:36 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4329 Security:
8/22 10:30:37 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:30:37 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4329 Security:
8/22 10:31:45 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4334 Security:
8/22 10:31:45 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:31:46 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4334 Security:
8/22 10:33:02 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4338 Security:
8/22 10:33:02 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:33:02 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4338 Security:
8/22 10:34:27 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4342 Security:
8/22 10:34:27 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:34:27 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4342 Security:
8/22 10:35:56 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4346 Security:
8/22 10:35:56 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:35:56 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4346 Security:
8/22 10:37:22 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4350 Security:
8/22 10:37:22 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:37:22 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4350 Security:
8/22 10:38:55 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4354 Security:
8/22 10:38:55 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:38:56 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4354 Security:
8/22 10:40:07 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4358 Security:
8/22 10:40:07 ~ Status: 102 Connection dropped. - Stage: 00
8/22 10:40:07 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 4358 Security:


For me it seems to auto increment the port number. Or does it isn't the port number? At the first connection he shows:

Quote:

8/22 10:41:20 ~ Status: Connecting to mail1.save.tv (POP3) Port: 110 Security:


And 110 is the port number for POP3, right? And the first connection always run without a drop. A nother indication that it isn't due to the servers.

Do you have further ideas? I really don't know what the problem is but I won't loose hope so fast Wink
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